tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4271373189216022547.post4722542503639352783..comments2023-11-21T12:51:59.908-08:00Comments on Murderboarding Inc.: Who Dares To Live Forever? Haven S3E12 ReunionAnna Hammetthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10095633218958433882noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4271373189216022547.post-90754946867935083332013-01-24T04:47:10.473-08:002013-01-24T04:47:10.473-08:00I noticed that on that Herald article about Arla&#...I noticed that on that Herald article about Arla's first victim, there's also some other story about a girl who was raped by her father and then believed she was poisoned to induce a miscarriage. I don't know if it's reference to one of King's works or a clue about this series as well.Peridot81https://www.blogger.com/profile/03204762117936371835noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4271373189216022547.post-58157185794916569212013-01-20T14:53:09.953-08:002013-01-20T14:53:09.953-08:00I think it was Dave and Vince helped. CK mentioned...I think it was Dave and Vince helped. CK mentioned that he was knocked out with something, Dave did the same thing to Vince. I think whatever power they have is the ability to kill(pale tattooed arm reaching for his face). I don't believe Arla killed him, her trouble was triggered by his death and her actions are motivated by wanting to be with him in her own crazy way. Lucy probably had no time to tell anyone or if garland knew he didnt tell audrey. I tend to think the may october date thing is a continuity error and Lucy went into the barn a few days aftter CK's death because Penny Driscoll said Lucy left haven soon after and i dont think she could have left haven with the troubles still in effect to return 4 months later in time for the meteor storm. As audrey pointed out there are no days off in haven. I believe Arla's original skin peeled off and possibly disintegrated or at least sewing it back on wasn't an option. It's a curse after all so i think her nicest option would have been to remain skinless but since its a trouble she couldn' t herself at least with the first one. Tommy et al were strategic. About the fit well it is magic, why did the cake lady not die after a few months? Convenience so the writers can move the plot. I've often scratched my head about some of the troubles e.g. The double jeopardy woman, could she have conjured up any character from any painting? I think Arla lived as the first woman she skinned when the troubles were inactive and then she started switching between them when the troubles started up again. She changed skins like clothes, hence the creepy storage tanksPeridot81https://www.blogger.com/profile/03204762117936371835noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4271373189216022547.post-24825953506004256582013-01-20T10:42:20.138-08:002013-01-20T10:42:20.138-08:00I guess it's possible to reconcile the timelin...I guess it's possible to reconcile the timeline with Aud/Lu digging up a 4-5 months old decaying corpse to drag to the Barn, but . . . seriously, ew. That seems highly crazy. Not in character for our Aud/Lu/Sar. Also, echoes of Pet Sematary, and makes me wonder if James isn't "not quite right" now that he's been brought back to life by the Barn. Clearly, it looks like he can't "live" outside the Barn, but maybe he's been altered/corrupted somehow so that he is not a reliable narrator re: the solutions to the Troubles.<br /><br />FWIW, I don't think either Arla or Lucy killed CK. Arla doesn't seem to know what happened to him, and her assertion that it was Lucy seems like speculation derived from her anger about being excluded from the Barn or maybe a more general accusation that Lucy was responsible for his death. Lucy was crying over the body of the CK, so she seemed anguished by his death. Also, when she went to Real Lucy, she said that someone (presumably CK)had already died and she'd figured out how to stop the Troubles, but obviously they didn't stop upon CK's death. If Lucy had killed CK (someone she loved), shouldn't that have stopped the Troubles, if in fact Aud/Lu/Sar murdering a loved one is the answer to stopping them?<br /><br />I'd guess that it was a member of the Guard, maybe even Vince, who killed CK, to give Lucy no reason to fight to stay in Haven. If she'd lost her son, maybe she wouldn't fight going into the Barn. Maybe Vince or Dave was even responsible for planting the seed that dragging CK's body to the Barn would bring him back to life.Nyxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17196366093553460915noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4271373189216022547.post-7928260874492440242013-01-20T09:22:42.139-08:002013-01-20T09:22:42.139-08:00So my question (and this maybe better for the '...So my question (and this maybe better for the 'Thanks for the Memories' recap): Who killed the Colorado Kid? Arla said it was Lucy, but that doesn't sound like Aud/Lu (unless she's protecting someone else like Audrey when she killed the Rev. And if the Kid was hurting someone, would she try to bring him back?). <br /><br />And what triggered Arla's trouble? I was assuming it was James's death, but if she killed him, that doesn't seem likely. Plus the timing seems wrong - he died in May, but her trouble started in October (or was the local woman not her first skin?) And why didn't Lucy tell anyone that Arla was a skin walker?!? The comment, "Lucy didn't understand. . ." implies she knew about it, but didn't approve of it. Did she think she had broken the cycle?<br /><br />And then (and these are more. . . . maybe Doylist than Watsonian? Not sure of the best term. . . . but sometimes I just can't help myself) when Arla's trouble first started, couldn't she have sewn her skin back together and put it back on? Like she did with the Arla skin she made? And how do all the different skins fit her? Tommy was taller, heavier, and had different. . .um. . .plumbing? But it was never an issue. . . . . And how long can she wear a skin? Days? Years? When Lucy went into the barn, was Arla stuck in that same skin until the Troubles started again?C Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04702192405714153388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4271373189216022547.post-18121590055554729332013-01-20T02:52:47.521-08:002013-01-20T02:52:47.521-08:00Arla explains it when she goes to abduct Audrey, a...Arla explains it when she goes to abduct Audrey, again.<br /><br />Admittedly, she doesn't say how long... but to me it seems the kid got buried, Lucy and Arla made the plan to bring James to the barn, at some point Arlas Trouble kicks in, she becomes a murderer and when the time comes for Lucy to go to the barn, she gets James from the grave(somehow) and goes to the Barn without Arla. Who somehow gets there, anyway.<br /><br />At least that's what I get from this conversation;<br /><br />Arla: "After James was murdered, Lucy said she'd bring both of us into to the barn with her. She said, once we were in there, the restorative properties that kept her alive, kept you alive, would bring James back"<br /><br />Audrey: "You were in the barn 27 years ago?"<br /><br />Arla: "Before the barn arrived, my trouble kicked in... I was in my hotel, and my skin... it just started to slide off, strip by strip, until there was nothing left. I was just a raw, oozing thing."<br /><br />Audrey: "So you killed an innocent young woman, so you could steal her skin to wear?"<br /><br />Arla: "It was just... instinct, besides, I didn't have a choice, I couldn't let James see me like that, but Lucy... Lucy didn't understand, so she tricked me, she brought James to the barn alone and by the time I got there I couldn't get in. I banged on the door, I pounded, I begged- the Barn just disappeared..." etc.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04034407569632841178noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4271373189216022547.post-13720417668975200652013-01-19T19:39:36.105-08:002013-01-19T19:39:36.105-08:00So, I don't see how Arla's story works wit...So, I don't see how Arla's story works with the established timeline. It sounds like Aud/Lu entered the Barn with James Cogan immediately after he'd been killed, to try to bring him back.<br /><br />But the Colorado Kid died in May 1983. When Duke was researching the Hunter meteor shower, it took place in October, and there's a picture of Lucy talking about her disappearance in October.<br /><br />When Aud/Lu went to visit Real Lucy, Real Lucy said Aud/Lu had said that "someone had died" (presumably Colorado Kid) and that she'd discovered a "terrible secret" about what caused the Troubles and how to end them. "Months" later, Simon Crocker came looking for Aud/Lu. If the Troubles had ended, surely he'd have known, and that meant Aud/Lu would have entered the Barn, which suggests that Aud/Lu hadn't yet gone away.<br /><br />Arla was hanging around the outside of the Barn, desperate to get in, so wouldn't she have noticed if Lucy came back out? Could Lucy move the Barn and still get out? Could Aud/Lu wander around for months without Arla noticing? Didn't Arla stick around Haven for a while? If "local woman disappears" in October, surely Aud/Lu must have been in town between death of CK and that time for someone to notice that she'd gone missing in October, how could Arla have missed her?Nyxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17196366093553460915noreply@blogger.com